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Sunday, January 12, 2014

Watchtower MISREPRESENTATIONS (2) The Early Church Fathers



This is the Watchtower's "SMOKING GUN"!

Ever wonder WHY they discontinued printing this publication?
Ever wonder WHY they dropped it off the ONLINE PRESENCE?
As you read this, IT WILL QUICKLY BECOME CRYSTAL CLEAR!

They have TOTALLY MISREPRESENTED THEIR SOURCES IN AN EFFORT TO TRY TO GAIN "SEEMING SUPPORT" FOR THEIR FALSE TEACHINGS.

I have provided you with a fraction of the quotes DIRECTLY from the writings and resources of the Early Church Fathers THEMSELVES so you can see first hand the variance in truthfulness and lack of integrity on the part of the Watchtower Leaders.

Links to other helpful resources will be provided here as well.
Blessings as you use this material to help open the eyes of the lost!

Begin by asking your JW friend if they think the Apostle Paul was offering good advice in 1 Thes 5:21 when he stated for us to..."test everything and hold tight to what is good."
Ask them if THEY checked the Watchtower for truthfulness and integrity to see if they TRULY are operating like God's Organization?

THEN SHOW THEM THIS! 



Justin Martyr  
Justin Martyr was MONOTHEIST! He believed in ONLY ONE GOD!
With that in mind read HIS comments from HIS pen and not mutilated and manipulated by the Watchtower Leaders!
"The Father of the universe has a Son, who also being the first begotten Word of God, is even God." (Justin Martyr, First Apology, ch 63) 
"Christ is called both God and Lord of hosts." 
 (Dialogue with Trypho, ch, 36)
"Moreover, in the diapsalm of the forty-sixth Psalm, reference is thus made to Christ: 'God went up with a shout, the Lord with the sound of a trumpet." 
(Dialogue with Trypho, ch 37) (NOTE: The "Lord" in this passage is JEHOVAH!  

"Worship God alone." (Justin Martyr, First Apology, ch 16)
"Whence to God alone we render worship." (Justin Martyr, First Apology, ch 17)  
 "Therefore these words testify explicitly that He [Christ] is witnessed to by Him who established these things, as deserving to be worshipped, as God and as Christ." - Dialogue with Trypho, ch. 63.  



Irenaeus

"Christ Jesus is our Lord, and God, and Savior, and King." (Against Heresies, Book I, ch. 10, section 1)
[Quoting John 1:1] "'...and the Word was God,' of course, for that which is begotten of God is God." (Against Heresies, Book I, ch. 8, section 5)  
"Christ Himself, therefore, together with the Father, is the God of the living, who spake to Moses, and who was also manifested to the fathers." (Against Heresies, Book IV, ch. 5, section 2)  
"The Word, that is, the Son, was always with the Father." (Against Heresies, Book IV, ch. 20, section 3) 



Clement Of Alexandria
"There was then, a Word importing an unbeginning eternity; as also the Word itself, that is, the Son of God, who being, by equality of substance, one with the Father, is eternal and uncreated." (Fragments, Part I, section III) 
"I understand nothing else than the Holy Trinity to be meant; for the third is the Holy Spirit, and the Son is the second, by whom all things were made according to the will of the Father." (Stromata, Book V, ch. 14)  
 'For both are one — that is, God. For He has said, "In the beginning the Word was in God, and the Word was God." (The Instructor, Book 1, ch 8) 
"Despised as to appearance but in reality adored, [Jesus is] the Expiator, the Savior, the Soother, the Divine Word, he that is quite evidently true God, he that is put on a level with the Lord of the universe because he was his Son." (Exhortation to the Greeks, 10:110:1).  



Tertullian
"Never did any angel descend for the purpose of being crucified, of tasting death, and of rising again from the dead." (The Flesh of Christ, ch 6)
"All the Scriptures give clear proof of the Trinity, and it is from these that our principle is deduced...the distinction of the Trinity is quite clearly displayed." (Against Praxeas, ch 11)
"The origins of both his substances display him as man and as God: from the one, born, and from the other, not born" (The Flesh of Christ, 5:6-7).
"[God speaks in the plural 'Let us make man in our image'] because already there was attached to Him his Son, a second person, his own Word, and a third, the Spirit in the Word....one substance in three coherent persons. He was at once the Father, the Son, and the Spirit." (Against Praxeas, ch 12)  
"Thus the connection of the Father in the Son, and of the Son in the Paraclete, produces three coherent Persons, who are yet distinct One from Another. These Three are, one essence, not one Person, as it is said, 'I and my Father are One' [John 10:30], in respect of unity of Being not singularity of number" (Against Praxeas, 25)  
"That there are two Gods and two Lords, however, is a statement which we will never allow to issue from our mouth" (Against Praxeas 13:6)
"God alone is without sin. The only man who is without sin is Christ; for Christ is also God" (The Soul 41:3)  
"Keep always in mind the rule of faith which I profess and by which I bear witness that the Father and the Son and the Spirit are inseparable from each other, and then you will understand what is meant by it. Observe now that I say the Father is other [distinct], the Son is other, and the Spirit is other. This statement is wrongly understood by every uneducated or perversely disposed individual, as if it meant diversity and implied by that diversity a separation of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit" (Against Praxeas, 9) 


  
Hippolytus

  "For who will not say that there is one God? Yet he will not on that account deny the economy (i.e., the number and disposition of persons in the Trinity)." (Against The Heresy Of One Noetus) 
"As far as regards the power, therefore, God is one. But as far as regards the economy there is a threefold manifestation, as shall be proved afterwards when we give account of the true doctrine" (Against The Heresy Of One Noetus)  
"She hath mingled her wine" in the bowl, by which is meant, that the Saviour, uniting his Godhead, like pure wine, with the flesh in the Virgin, was born of her at once God and man without confusion of the one in the other. "And she hath furnished her table:" that denotes the promised knowledge of the Holy Trinity." (Hippolytus on Prov 9:1, fragment, "Wisdom hath builded her house.")  
[Applying Rev 1:8 to Christ] "He who is over all, God blessed, has been born, and having been made man. He is God forever. For to this effect John also has said, 'Which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.' And well has he named Christ the Almighty." (Against Noetus, Part 6)  
Many other passages, or rather all of them, attest the truth. A man, therefore, even though he will it not, is compelled to acknowledge God the Father Almighty, and Christ Jesus the Son of God, who, being God, became man, to whom also the Father made all things subject, Himself excepted, and the Holy Spirit; and that these, therefore, are three. But if he desires to learn how it is shown still that there is one God, let him know that His power is one. As far as regards the power, therefore, God is one. But as far as regards the economy there is a threefold manifestation, as shall be proved afterwards when we give account of the true doctrine. In these things, however, which are thus set forth by us, we are at one. For there is one God in whom we must believe, but unoriginated, impassible, immortal, doing all things as He wills, in the way He wills, and when He wills. What, then, will this Noetus, who knows nothing of the truth, dare to say to these things? And now, as Noetus has been confuted, let us turn to the exhibition of the truth itself, that we may establish the truth, against which all these mighty heresies have arisen without being able to state anything to the purpose. (Against The Heresy Of One Noetus)  



Origen

 "Nothing in the Trinity can be called greater or less, since the fountain of divinity alone contains all things by His word and reason, and by the Spirit of His mouth sanctifies all things which are worthy of sanctification." (De Principis, Book I, ch. 3, section 7) 
"Saving baptism was not complete except by the authority of the most excellent Trinity of them all, i.e., by the naming of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit." (De Principis, Book I, ch. 3, section 2)  
"For we do not hold that which the heretics imagine: that the Son was procreated by the Father from non-existent substances, that is, from a substance outside Himself, so that there was a time when He did not exist." (De Principis, Book V, Summary, section 28) 
"We worship one God, the Father and the Son." (Against Celsus, Book VIII, section 12)
"For it is the Trinity alone which exceeds every sense in which not only temporal but even eternal may be understood. It is all other things, indeed, which are outside the Trinity, which are to be measured by time and ages" (The Fundamental Doctrines 4:4:1). 

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Monday, December 16, 2013

Worldwide Security Under the PRINCE OF PEACE

Page 10 declares Jesus to be Mediator 
ONLY for the 144,000 Anointed Ones, 
and NOT 
Mediator to ALL mankind, 

as the Word of God declares!






The Bible declares at 1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God 
and one mediator 
between God and mankind, 
the man Christ Jesus!